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Bulldog76 Offline
#1 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 8:23:59 PM(UTC)
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`Hi,
Maybe this is a silly question, but i don´t know much about UPnP standards etc.
I have an Xbox 360 and i use Jamcat with it. I am annoyed over the noise that the 360 makes. So i am looking for another media extender to use for listening to music, and wathc movies. I want the device to be cheap so i found the xtreamer.

I would like to know if jamcast works with the xtreamer? I want to be able to use the virutal soundcard with this device. I don´t want to buy the xtreamer unless i know it will work. Anyone tired it out? or does anyone know if it should work the same way as with the 360?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:04:56 AM(UTC)
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Bulldog76 wrote:
`Hi,
Maybe this is a silly question, but i don´t know much about UPnP standards etc.
I have an Xbox 360 and i use Jamcat with it. I am annoyed over the noise that the 360 makes. So i am looking for another media extender to use for listening to music, and wathc movies. I want the device to be cheap so i found the xtreamer.

I would like to know if jamcast works with the xtreamer? I want to be able to use the virutal soundcard with this device. I don´t want to buy the xtreamer unless i know it will work. Anyone tired it out? or does anyone know if it should work the same way as with the 360?

Hi Bulldog76,

First off, what noise are you referring to on the 360?

Regarding the Xtreamer, it's UPnP (and advertises the UPnP logo which means it should be certified) so theoretically all should work well. That's theoretically, in practice it's not always the case for a variety of reasons. Therefore it would be great if someone stopped by and let us know, specifically with the Virtual Soundcard.

Or, perhaps you could ask the folks in the Xtreamer user community (do they have forums?) to try it out and let you know. Wink

Thanks!
Scott
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welph Offline
#7 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2009 10:32:24 PM(UTC)
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I've tried yesterday but I'm not sure yet how Jamcast works. Still figuering that out. There is a UPnP "browser" in Xtreamer, but it only shows my computer and Vuze(bittorent) when I run that program.
But I noticed that Jamcast found the Xtreamer in the Devices-tab.

EDIT: Pulled this out of the UPnP-log.

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11-29-2009 13:03:07 SSDP: M-SEARCH reply received by discovery service.
Remote IP: 192.168.0.104
Location: http://192.168.0.104:49152/description.xml
Server: Linux/2.6.12.6-VENUS, UPnP/1.0, Portable SDK for UPnP devices/1.6.6


If it helps. This is the Xtreamer.


EDIT2: If it helps, found out that Xtreamer is using GeeXboX uShare A free UPnP A/V & DLNA Media Server for Linux. http://ushare.geexbox.org/
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#8 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:04:18 AM(UTC)
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Strange is that I can see 3 Media devices in windows explorer(under Network), I'm running windows 7. My own PC, Vuze when that program is running and the Xtreamer, but no Jamcast. Shouldn't Jamcast be there as well?

This logg might tell:

Quote:
11-29-2009 02:32:44 Startup v0.9.7.49 (Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0)...
11-29-2009 02:32:44 The media server started successfully on [unknown hostname] @ 192.168.0.101:58641
11-29-2009 12:23:03 Startup v0.9.7.49 (Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0)...
11-29-2009 12:23:03 The media server started successfully on [unknown hostname] @ 192.168.0.101:58641
11-29-2009 13:39:03 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/mpeg/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5, Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8, Accept-Language: sv-se,sv;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3, Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate, Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: keep-alive
11-29-2009 13:39:03 Initialized WASAPI shared mode loopback capture -> Default format PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels, Capture format PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels
11-29-2009 13:39:03 Media stream pipeline: WASAPI Loopback Capture -> ffmpeg.exe --> FASAN-PC: Fasan: @ 192.168.0.101
11-29-2009 13:39:03 Response: Server: Windows NT/6.1, UPnP/1.0, Jamcast/0.9, Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:39:03 GMT, Content-Type: audio/mpeg, Accept-Ranges: none
11-29-2009 13:39:03 Process started: ffmpeg.exe -f f32le -ar 48000 -ac 2 -i - -f mp3 -ar 48000 -ac 2 -ab 320k -
11-29-2009 13:39:03 Begin streaming to FASAN-PC: Fasan: @ 192.168.0.101...
11-29-2009 13:39:03 WASAPI loopback capture stopped, 1 total gitches.
11-29-2009 13:39:04 I/O stats for WASAPI Loopback Capture: queue=84,992 reads=14 totalreadbytes=114,688 readsnodata=0 writes=52 totalwritebytes=199,680 writesempty=1 writesfull=0 maxbytes=171,776
11-29-2009 13:39:04 I/O stats for ffmpeg.exe: queue=960 reads=40 totalreadbytes=6,752 readsnodata=39 writes=7 totalwritebytes=7,712 writesempty=2 writesfull=0 maxbytes=6,752
11-29-2009 13:39:04 Network send stats: bytes=6,752 sleeps=39
11-29-2009 13:39:04 Streaming to FASAN-PC: Fasan: (192.168.0.101) completed.
11-29-2009 13:52:25 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/mpeg/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091102 Firefox/3.5.5, Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8, Accept-Language: sv-se,sv;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3, Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate, Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: keep-alive
11-29-2009 13:52:25 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/mpeg/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 13:52:25 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/mpeg/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 13:52:25 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/mpeg/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 13:52:25 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
091102 Firefox/3.5.5, Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=011-29-2009 13:52:25 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
091102 Firefox/3.5.5, Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=011-29-2009 13:52:25 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 13:52:25 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
091102 Firefox/3.5.5, Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=011-29-2009 13:52:25 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 14:08:04 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/mpeg/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 14:08:04 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 14:08:04 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/L16/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 14:08:04 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/L16/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 14:08:04 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/L16/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 14:08:04 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 14:08:04 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 14:08:04 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 14:29:04 HTTP/1.1 GET request: /Media/audio/L16/CaptureStream Host: 192.168.0.101:58641, Keep-Alive: 300, Connection: close, TE: trailers, Accept: */*, Icy-MetaData: 1
11-29-2009 14:29:05 ERROR: Unable to initialize WASAPI audio capture client (HRESULT=0x88890008, format=PCM 32-bit 48kHz 2 channels).
11-29-2009 14:49:13 Startup v0.9.7.49 (Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0)...
11-29-2009 14:49:13 The media server started successfully on [unknown hostname] @ 192.168.0.101:58641
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welph Offline
#9 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:18:51 AM(UTC)
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I can see the Jamcast in the UPnP tab in the xtreamer IF im in that tab while I start the jamcast on my PC. But when I try to enter Jamcast on the Xtreamer it thinks for a long time and then it shows up with an empty folder.
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Bulldog76 Offline
#3 Posted : Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:44:32 AM(UTC)
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Scott wrote:
Bulldog76 wrote:
`Hi,
Maybe this is a silly question, but i don´t know much about UPnP standards etc.
I have an Xbox 360 and i use Jamcat with it. I am annoyed over the noise that the 360 makes. So i am looking for another media extender to use for listening to music, and wathc movies. I want the device to be cheap so i found the xtreamer.

I would like to know if jamcast works with the xtreamer? I want to be able to use the virutal soundcard with this device. I don´t want to buy the xtreamer unless i know it will work. Anyone tired it out? or does anyone know if it should work the same way as with the 360?

Hi Bulldog76,

First off, what noise are you referring to on the 360?

Regarding the Xtreamer, it's UPnP (and advertises the UPnP logo which means it should be certified) so theoretically all should work well. That's theoretically, in practice it's not always the case for a variety of reasons. Therefore it would be great if someone stopped by and let us know, specifically with the Virtual Soundcard.

Or, perhaps you could ask the folks in the Xtreamer user community (do they have forums?) to try it out and let you know. Wink

Thanks!


Hi.
I put a question in a couple of xtreamer threads in other communityes, lets see what will happen,

The noise in my 360 comes from the fans i think. They are quite loud, maybe i would be helped out if i upgraded to a 360 with the latest chioset, maybe it woul be quieter, but mine is 2 years old and sounds lika an airplane., Smile


WELPH: hope you get it working, i am eager to know if it will work.
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Scott Offline
#4 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 1:56:45 AM(UTC)
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Bulldog76 wrote:
The noise in my 360 comes from the fans i think. They are quite loud, maybe i would be helped out if i upgraded to a 360 with the latest chioset, maybe it woul be quieter, but mine is 2 years old and sounds lika an airplane., Smile

Ah, yeah. Mine's a bit loud too, I think the noise varies with what DVD drive is installed -- MS uses different manufacturers for those drives and some are quieter than others.
Scott
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Bulldog76 Offline
#5 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 2:15:14 AM(UTC)
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Scott wrote:
Bulldog76 wrote:
The noise in my 360 comes from the fans i think. They are quite loud, maybe i would be helped out if i upgraded to a 360 with the latest chioset, maybe it woul be quieter, but mine is 2 years old and sounds lika an airplane., Smile

Ah, yeah. Mine's a bit loud too, I think the noise varies with what DVD drive is installed -- MS uses different manufacturers for those drives and some are quieter than others.


My dvd is not an issue, jsut the fans. But i heard that the new ones with the Jasper Chipset are much quiter.
I am thinking of either getting a new Elite, changing to ps3 or getting a media extender that works with Jamcast. (that would be the most important thing that hte virutal audio works with it, other stuff is just bonus.)

I was first thinking of getting a Tvix 65, but saw in this forum that someone could not get it to wrork with jamcast, (and the falut was in the Tvix firmware), so i got cold feet and thougt that maybe that Jamcast does not work with the xtreamer either. Until i know i wont buy one.

Have put out the question in varius communities but no answer on that one...

If somone here knows a cheap media extender that works with the virtual playlist then let me know. Or if it can be confirmed that the new 360s are not noisy
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#6 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 2:21:30 AM(UTC)
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Bulldog76 wrote:
Scott wrote:
Bulldog76 wrote:
The noise in my 360 comes from the fans i think. They are quite loud, maybe i would be helped out if i upgraded to a 360 with the latest chioset, maybe it woul be quieter, but mine is 2 years old and sounds lika an airplane., Smile

Ah, yeah. Mine's a bit loud too, I think the noise varies with what DVD drive is installed -- MS uses different manufacturers for those drives and some are quieter than others.


My dvd is not an issue, jsut the fans. But i heard that the new ones with the Jasper Chipset are much quiter.
I am thinking of either getting a new Elite, changing to ps3 or getting a media extender that works with Jamcast. (that would be the most important thing that hte virutal audio works with it, other stuff is just bonus.)

I was first thinking of getting a Tvix 65, but saw in this forum that someone could not get it to wrork with jamcast, (and the falut was in the Tvix firmware), so i got cold feet and thougt that maybe that Jamcast does not work with the xtreamer either. Until i know i wont buy one.

Have put out the question in varius communities but no answer on that one...

If somone here knows a cheap media extender that works with the virtual playlist then let me know. Or if it can be confirmed that the new 360s are not noisy

Have you looked at the Roku Soundbridge?

http://soundbridge.roku.com/soundbridge/index.php

They are not well supported anymore (end of life), but I've been pleased with mine for 4+ years and would still recommend it to anyone. It is a very nice device.
Scott
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#10 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 3:08:25 AM(UTC)
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Sorry for hi-jacking the topic, but what do you think about the stuff I have wrote down so far, Scott? Is it achiveable to make this going with the Xtreamer?
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#11 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 3:13:28 AM(UTC)
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welph wrote:
Sorry for hi-jacking the topic, but what do you think about the stuff I have wrote down so far, Scott? Is it achiveable to make this going with the Xtreamer?


Don´t be sorry. Anyone coudl us this thread to tyr to comfirm that jamcast works with Jamcast
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#12 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 3:18:42 AM(UTC)
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I have tried "almost" everything atm, so I don't know what to do. Probobly something with my PC, I can't see the Jamcast as a media device in my Network. And therefor the Xtreamer doesn't either.
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#13 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 3:31:09 AM(UTC)
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What orepating system do you have, is it wired or wireless network?
No firewall issues?
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#14 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 3:48:44 AM(UTC)
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Windows7, and I'm using a D-link(router) as firewall(don't know which, working atm) It's both wire and wireless. But I'm using wired. But the router shouldn't interfere with my PC due to that the jamcast-server is on that PC. And I have seen that the jamcast can see the Xtreamer under the device-tab.
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#15 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 10:44:49 PM(UTC)
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But you cannot find jamcast on your xtreamer? Isn´t there a library that says UPnP in the xtreamer? the little i know is that Jamcst should be there.
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#16 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 11:22:33 PM(UTC)
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I can only find Jamcast when I'm in that library when I start/restart Jamcast. But when I try to enter, it loads for quite a time and then it shows me an empty folder....And when I get out of UPnP-library and re-enter, Jamcast aren't there.
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#17 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2009 11:26:17 PM(UTC)
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ok.
Strange. Then maybe it doesn´t work. maybe the device does not have full UPnP capabilities?
That is the case with the Tvix 6500. Wondering if a Popcorn hour will work?
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:43:44 AM(UTC)
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I guess it's something with either my PC, windows7 or jamcast(still beta). Xtreamer is able to see my PC, vuze and Tversity which all is mapped up as Upnp-devices in the xtreamer.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:57:37 PM(UTC)
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I have been able to stream to the xtreamer, the upnp is not very good on the xt and crashed when i tried to connect to the sound card. I then tried the direct links given in faq's and it works with flac and mpeg, you have to use a shortcut which links to the stream here is mine:

[playlist]
File1=http://192.168.2.2:58641/Media/audio/flac/CaptureStream
Title1=XFM
Length1=-1
NumberOfEntries=1
Version=2


put the address of your computer in place of mine and create a file called stream.plsx (name is not important ext is)

you must ensure your card is passing the stream, it is explained on this forum.

I can stream deezer and any sound with no hangups.
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#20 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 7:08:22 AM(UTC)
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I can only see the Jamcast in the Xtreamers UPnP-directory for a short time. But I have succesfully got enough time to start the stream before it disapeared...

Does the author of this program have any ideas why it disapears?

Maybe it has something with my about 5 years old PC to do......Wink
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