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Jambo
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Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:08:25 PM(UTC)
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Greetings. I've newly downloaded and installed Jamcast on my Vista x64 machine and things have run well, particularly using Virtual Soundcard to stream those pesky internet radio stations with proprietary browser-embedded media players to my Roku Soundbrige. However, I am having a frequent problem when streaming music from my own folders on my computer. Jamcast will stream five or six songs very nicely and then will stop, sometimes for several minutes. When this happens, the Soundbridge will show "Playback Stopped", but if I wait long enough, the next song will begin playing. I'll then get about four to six more songs, and playback will stop again for about a minute or three. This only appears to happen between songs. I've very occasionally encountered dropouts or pauses mid-song, but these last on the order of a half a second, and occur far less frequently. Any suggestions you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
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Jambo
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Jambo wrote:
Greetings. I've newly downloaded and installed Jamcast on my Vista x64 machine and things have run well, particularly using Virtual Soundcard to stream those pesky internet radio stations with proprietary browser-embedded media players to my Roku Soundbrige. However, I am having a frequent problem when streaming music from my own folders on my computer. Jamcast will stream five or six songs very nicely and then will stop, sometimes for several minutes. When this happens, the Soundbridge will show "Playback Stopped", but if I wait long enough, the next song will begin playing. I'll then get about four to six more songs, and playback will stop again for about a minute or three. This only appears to happen between songs. I've very occasionally encountered dropouts or pauses mid-song, but these last on the order of a half a second, and occur far less frequently. Any suggestions you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
Many Thanks,
Jambo
Hi Jambo,
Thanks for stopping by to report this. Sorry for your troubles.
I wonder if there's something about the tracks that it is stopping at that is causing the issue? Can you confirm an consistencies with when playback stops -- does it always stop at the same song(s)?
If you think there's a trend there, note what songs are problematic and paste your medialog.txt to
http://pastebin.org
and share the link here so I can take a look at what's going on. The Soundbridge isn't a fussy device so I'm assuming right now that this is going to be media-related.
Thanks!
Scott
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Jambo
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Sunday, December 06, 2009 4:28:32 AM(UTC)
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Thanks very much for your quick response. When I originally encountered this problem I was randomly playing songs from a genre (selected through the Soundbridge). Later I encountered the same problem playing from a genre without randomizing. I'll try replaying and see if I encounter the problem only when starting the same songs. I'll let you know what I find.
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Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:04:57 AM(UTC)
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Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, and thanks for your attention to this problem. Jamcast is working pretty well, but regularly seems unable to locate the next song in a list. This does not appear to the the song file itself, as I can directly select the song from a list and it will play through the soundbridge. Per your suggestion, I've pasted an excerpt, with an editorial comment at the point I most recently experienced the problem, at the following link.
http://pastebin.org/66772
Thanks again for your help!
-Jambo
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Jambo
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Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:10:20 AM(UTC)
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Please also note that I'm seeing a recurring error in my importlog. I'm not sure if this will help reveal the source of my problem, but please find an excerpt at:
http://pastebin.org/66777
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Jambo
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Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:17:15 AM(UTC)
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Finally, I've posted and excerpt from the upnplog that shows activity between 18:34 and 18:36, when I most recently encountered the problem. Thanks!
http://pastebin.org/66782
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Monday, December 21, 2009 4:08:58 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jambo,
Thanks for all the documentation here.
The most puzzling, or interesting, part of your problem is the fact that the requests for tracks that are being skipped do not appear in the logfile. There are 3 possible scenarios that come to mind:
1) Jamcast error. If you check your Windows application event log, there may be logging in there not included in the medialog.txt that indicates a more generic error occurring when these requests are made.
2) Networking issue. The network is unavailable when the Soundbridge makes these requests.
3) Faulty Soundbridge. Just throwing it out there, let's not talk about this one yet.
As a first step, see if you can find anything in the Windows application event log corresponding to when these requests should have been made.
Regarding #2, is it safe to say you've got the SB connected wirelessly?
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Jambo
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Monday, December 21, 2009 11:46:30 AM(UTC)
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Hi Scott. Checking the Windows event log, I see that Jamcast throws the following warning message about once or twice every minute while I'm streaming music:
http://pastebin.org/67581
Also, very near in time to the song skipping problem I've described, I receive the following errors on the Windows Event Log from Perflib. I don't know if it's Jamcast related, but I thought I send it along, just in case.
http://pastebin.org/67584
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Monday, December 21, 2009 11:49:01 AM(UTC)
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Oh, and yes, the Soundbridge is connected wirelessly.
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Monday, December 21, 2009 1:15:01 PM(UTC)
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Hey Jambo,
How about the log message here:
http://pastebin.org/67581
Do you see any correlation between that error and the song skipping behavior? This error message I believe would cause exactly what we're seeing.
What device is at 10.0.0.1, is that a router? Jamcast is attempting to acquire its MAC address via an ARP request and is receiving the following error:
Code:
The network name cannot be found. This error is returned on Windows Vista and later when an ARP reply to the SendARP request was not received. This error occurs if the destination IPv4 address could not be reached.
Possible network configuration issue?
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Jambo
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Friday, December 25, 2009 8:55:37 AM(UTC)
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Scott,
Many thanks! You've pointed me in the right direction. My problem appears to have been due to my network configuration (though still I don't know what the 10.0.0.1 address from my Windows Event Log is). I'm currently using a "ganged" configuration of two wireless routers, configured as in:
http://kb.netgear.com/ap...nswers/detail/a_id/965.
As indicated in this article, there can be DHCP problems with this configuration, and I appear to have run into one. The solution was to set up a static route for my Soundbridge, as indicated at:
http://soundbridge.roku....rt/static_ip.php#step3.
Since statically routing the Soundbridge, I have run into none of the problems I previously mentioned in this thread. You analysis of the Windowa Event Log really got me started in resolving this issue. Not a Jamcast problem, but I hope you'll keep this thread posted to help others who may encounter a similar problem.
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Friday, December 25, 2009 11:10:17 AM(UTC)
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Awesome Jambo, thanks for reporting back. Don't let Jamcast off the hook so easy (although I appreciate it!), but in my opinion operations shouldn't be so heavily tied to MAC address resolution. There was a point in the past where the MAC address was important to Jamcast in terms of device identification, but that has changed over time as MAC addy's are no good for uniqueness in more advanced networking configurations since you can't resolve a device's MAC address when it's more than 1 hop away.
Anyhow, I'm really glad you got it worked out. Please stop by if you have any further questions.
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Jambo
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Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:16:40 AM(UTC)
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Alas, you were quite right to be skeptical, Scott. The problem resurfaced after about an hour or so of play. I've reverted back to a dynamic route. I'll keep you posted if I find anything new.
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Jambo wrote:
Alas, you were quite right to be skeptical, Scott. The problem resurfaced after about an hour or so of play. I've reverted back to a dynamic route. I'll keep you posted if I find anything new.
-Jambo
Hey Jambo,
Is it the same error, with the same IP address?
Check the upnplog.txt for references to that IP, see if you can identify it.
Does that IP even fall within your subnet, or is it totally unexpected?
Let's see if we can't attack it from both angles, I want to make sure it's not a Jamcast bug. Thinking about it more, the error makes sense only if it's the Soundbridge; if the device at that endpoint is unrelated to the Soundbridge, I'd expect you to still see errors in the event log but playback would be uninterrupted.
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Hi Scott,
I'm at a loss as to what 10.0.0.1 is. My subnet is typical for private network: 192.168.etc., 255.255.etc. When I run Firefly, the problem with the periodic inability to access the next song does not occur. Since Firefly is using a different protocol than Jamcast (I think), this snippet of information probably doesn't help much, but I thought I'd provide it anyway. I really like Jamcast's ease of installation and virtual sound card, so I'll keep plugging on this issue to see if we can figure it out. Thanks for you prompt support!
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Jambo wrote:
Hi Scott,
I'm at a loss as to what 10.0.0.1 is. My subnet is typical for private network: 192.168.etc., 255.255.etc. When I run Firefly, the problem with the periodic inability to access the next song does not occur. Since Firefly is using a different protocol than Jamcast (I think), this snippet of information probably doesn't help much, but I thought I'd provide it anyway. I really like Jamcast's ease of installation and virtual sound card, so I'll keep plugging on this issue to see if we can figure it out. Thanks for you prompt support!
Regards,
Jambo
Hi Jambo,
Let's circle back real quick and make sure we're still going down a reasonable path. Are you still getting the same error messages in the event log regarding the same IP address, and are they coinciding with the playback stops?
If you do a
ipconfig /all
from the command line, are there perhaps any interfaces that you weren't aware of that would fall into that 10.x.x.x subnet?
Also, if you could paste your entire medialog.txt to
http://pastebin.org
, I'll sift thru that for clues.
I'd really like to figure this one out, so I'm not giving up yet.
Thanks!
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Jambo
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Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:54:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Scott,
I ran ipconfig all from my server and found no subnet like 10.x.x.x. Also, my medialog is too large to post the whole thing on pastebin. So, I've selected today's activity only. You can find it at:
http://pastebin.org/70614
. I experienced the problem at around 14:04 and again at around 14:27. I hope this helps.
Here's the import log for today:
http://pastebin.org/70623
Here's the upnp log:
http://pastebin.org/70624
Thanks very much!
-Jambo
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Monday, January 04, 2010 3:37:43 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jambo,
Thanks for providing these logfiles. I see no reference to that 10. address anywhere. I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm pretty baffled by this issue; it makes no sense -- where is that IP coming from?
This whole problem is because Jamcast can't resolve the MAC address, which as I mentioned earlier is not as important as it once was. So, I'm going to made some adjustments to code so this problem doesn't manifest itself into a playback issue.
Hang in there, I should have a new build out in a couple of days with this change. I might run it by you first before I post it, if you don't mind...
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Thanks very much, Scott. I look forward to trying out the new version. Let me know when it's ready. I'll be away for a few days later this week, so I may not be able to really try it out until early next week. In the mean time, I'll keep trying to figure out the 10.0.0.1 address. It's a mystery to me, as well. Jamcast generates a warning message in the Windows Event Log, including a reference to the mystery IP several times a minute all the time, whether I'm experiencing the "unable to play" problem or not. So there doesn't seem to be a correlation between the warning and the playback defect. Anyway, thanks again for taking an interest in this issue!
-Jambo
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Jambo wrote:
Thanks very much, Scott. I look forward to trying out the new version. Let me know when it's ready. I'll be away for a few days later this week, so I may not be able to really try it out until early next week. In the mean time, I'll keep trying to figure out the 10.0.0.1 address. It's a mystery to me, as well. Jamcast generates a warning message in the Windows Event Log, including a reference to the mystery IP several times a minute all the time, whether I'm experiencing the "unable to play" problem or not. So there doesn't seem to be a correlation between the warning and the playback defect. Anyway, thanks again for taking an interest in this issue!
-Jambo
Hey Jambo,
You're welcome. I've got that change implemented and will get a build over to you later today.
I agree with you, I went back thru this thread last night in its entirety and from what you've reported I don't see much correlation either. Nonetheless, we might as well try this fix and see if it reveals new information. If nothing else, we may discover more about where the 10.0.0.1 address is coming from.
If you've got some time, you might look more into the possibility of intermittent network drops. I acknowledge what you said regarding Firefly working fine, but am trying to be thorough. A decent preliminary test would be to ping the Soundbridge from the PC while Jamcast is running, and watching for communication problems like so:
Code:
ping 192.168.1.105 -n 99999999
Another thing you can try is a Wireshark capture (wireshark.org) during Jamcast playback, which will capture the problem in a network trace. If you're feeling spry, this is a really good diagnostic and you can save off the capture file and email it to me for analysis. That capture would show us whether or not there's a request for the next track coming from the Soundbridge and how/if Jamcast is responding. Remember, we never saw requests in the medialog.txt for those problematic tracks, which to me means either the request never happened or Jamcast encountered a fairly obscure problem before it was able to write to the log.
The other thing as you mentioned is that Firefly doesn't use the same protocol as Jamcast, which leaves open the (albeit slim) possibility that the Soundbridge has an issue, in which case I'd recommend for the sake of being thorough doing a factory reset on the device and bringing the firmware updates back up to current (I believe this is possible on the Soundbridge).
Anyhow, thanks for your persistence and hopefully in the end we'll square this away.
Thanks!
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